Meeting in the middle is a fantastic strategy for both buyers and sellers, even if the buyer starts really low. I have literally dropped prices down to the absolute bare minimum and I still get offers that make me loose hope in humanity. In theory, its a great site but the fees are ridiculous. Below are five strategies for dealing with the ultra-annoying lowball offer. Much to my dismay, they didnt require him to return the item. What a joke! I had told them I was happy with the other items, and only wanted a refund for the damaged top, plus the money off that was promised in the description. Now, though, I keep two things in mind: my hourly rate for ghostwriting and other side gigs is much higher than spending an hour going back and forth over $5, $10, or $15. So not sure if its their revenge on me? OMG!!!!!!! The first price I offer may be a lowball offer but that is the lowest price I will pay. Recently, I private offered a Prada bag that was already 40 percent off my original price (and that was 70 percent off retail; my original price was less than others are asking.) I dont have a lot of experience with buying wholesale, as most of my items either come directly out of my closet or are things I pick up at consignment stores that either dont fit me or that I think a customer would like. I was excited to see that Posh mark keeps your stats on file as I always strive to be the best. How is that allowed?! I agree with you unless it comes to high end, in-demand and hard-to-find designer items. Check sites like ThredUp (theyre pretty terrible!) An interesting fact that my friends have pointed out to me regarding Posh (which is why they will never sell or buy from them): Chances of wanting several items from one closet is rare. Really, really good points! And not just within the Poshmark universe. Trying to figure out all the steps I need to take. I just had as case open for me exaggerating the so-called flaws I didnt describe. Its fun for me and keeps me busy (I was a Social Worker but am now disabled, so I need to do something to keep myself from going insane). Complete Guide 2020, How to Be Successful on Poshmark as a New Seller in 2023, 5 Secret Hacks to Boost Your Poshmark Sales in 2023. Thanks for understanding, Janet. I agree! (Ive also sold numerous items on Craigslist, but thats a totally different business model.) Its a sad place for sellers these days. I still feel like a babe in the woods'(! Good luck ! Its laughable that countering takes too much time when its a few clicks on the phone that is most likely already in their hand. I received an email stating it was removed because it was counterfeit! Since then, I have SO many new followers everyday. Its not as social as Posh and people cant comment under items (dm only), so you dont feel like you have to be there:) Mercari is also quicker to respond when there is a problem. I bought a BRAND NEW IN BOX item and this has been used. I do the same thing every time someone opens a case I immediately reply and say I will not accept the return because my listing had clear photos and a description, with measurements, which I show in a screenshot in the reply. I either interacted with folks that have drank the Poshmark kool aid and are delusional and in denial or folks that do recognize the deeply flawed issues about the company, but dont care enough to put any energy towards calling them out. Not that Im satisfied with that and its nowhere close to what I do on eBay, but Ive only been on Posh a short time and have a fraction of the inventory, so no complaints here. If youre going to start your own site, try BigCommerce here: http://bit.ly/2pFg5Mt. Me and poshmark have a love hate relationship I love the fact that I can make money without all the footwork but the thing I despise is the fact they have full control over my closet. I doubt it displays on the newsfeeds of all our followers. And then there is the time suck factor. After 114 5-star reviews with raves about my packaging with no problems in 3 years, I finally got scammed! Maams! Anyone who gets mad because they arent making money is being silly.. I agree the lowball offers are ridiculous and Im offended! Not California!! Did you have pay a ton of money on SEO? Jen, Good Luck to all! Sales final and as is with description. Anyway, only in a real store you get to send them to the bad customer file of the credit card companies to ban them from buying stuff from any store. Kendra, thats fantastic news about what youre doing with your site and educating people about fast fashion. Unfortunately I have not received a single package sent with as much care as I send mine. I grew my closet, made many sales, became a suggested user with a 5 star rating. Given the high Poshmark fees that sellers have to pay, this is simply unacceptable. I got to the point where if someone offered me less than half the asking price, I would just block them. Im not sure Ive ever blocked anyone else. All $3, $4, and $5 items must be bundled. Im not sure how much longer it will work for anyone. Idk why theyre not even bothering to look into this but it really upsets me, especially since theyre making money off of me. I would try eBay and Tradesy before doing a Shopify account. If anyone knows of a platform for that Id love to know. I just bought it. Even if, sorry to say, they called you a whore. I cannot bring the fact that this harrassnent is still very sadly still happening in 2021 into light without mentioning that I am very appreciative and thankful for Poshmarks compassion, and their quick, and effective response to the severe harrassment I was receiving. Click that and you will see the "block user" option. Thx for posting! I emailed them re: the shipping delays from the hurricanes and got an email that said if you cant ship your order on time you need to cancel. I didnt mince words in my complaint! I used to sell on eBay about 20 years ago. If the likers were serious buyers they would have pulled the trigger. I was So angry but took time to ask the seller more questions nicely bc I felt that she couldnt have not known bc the heel heights are so different I took them to the store she purchased from where they told me it was a defect.. Posh doesnt seem to have a system in place to protect the seller!! At that point, would rather give it away to someone I know for free or donate to a thrift store that supports a charity/worthy cause. A lot of what makes a low ball offer a low ball offer is the perception of the person receiving the offer. I saw your post on Posh and read your blog article. I love selling things online to earn a little extra spending money, but Im ready to quit Poshmark too and look into other options. But the MAIN reason I will not do posh is because of the very restrictive photo requirements. hi Interesting to read all of this. I have not lost a case. I however, am photographing extensively anything bought from my closet before shipping!! You did the right thing Lesli by filing an official complaint with the BBB. There you have it! I joined last October in search of something to purchase. Would this stop someone from scamming/being scammed, do you think, or would Poshmark even ignore the video proof sent in by a seller? Thanks to all for listening and sharing your eye-opening storiesIm sorry for all of us and most certainly will switch to another sales site (or set up my own online store)! I am trying to figure the best venue for resale. Which is sure to effect sales. Poshmark is about making deals. What about the sellers costs for packaging materials, etc.? She wants Poshmark really does need to protect their sellers more. Just a chime in- you can flag comments (theyll pop up asking if its harassement or offensive) and posh will take it right down! Like many sellers, I used to take low ball offers on Poshmark personally. But, until recently, I overlooked those negatives. Im not here to play games. xx. It has built in capability to share your store on social media with things like shoppable pins on Pinterest and Instagram, so you can share with your social media following. Let me share a buyers story. I was clear about the Too Faced being used, I never used the KVD blush. Years ago, I gave up on Ebay because I purchased something and just never received the item. and within minutes the items had offers and instant sales. That said, Im sure a class-action lawsuit for sellers interested in legal recourse would change Poshmarks tune becauseas Ive read in all these commentsthis is completely unacceptable and out and out THEFT. Luckily 99.9 of my sales have been wonderful. The bundles costing US SELLERS more money to dish out to ship. When I contacted the admin. So, I dont pay to market or spend a bunch of time SMM marketing, but use my posh sales to lead people to my site by putting thank you cards and candy in my customers packages. I try to clean out my closet before a new season starts, because thats when those stores are hungry for inventory and will be less picky. I unfortunately ordered on Poshmark on two occasions. Whoever these people are, no nothing about products! My family sees me running around trying to make a sale and decided to help me so we literally share ALL THE TIME and nothing, just some weeks ago I was having good sales but I have the feeling they have a way to control who sees you shares or how many people sees it. My advice would be just to cut your losses with this buyer and block him from ever buying from you in the future. even if its new with tags 99.9% bought it off the clearance rack and are trying to sell it at MSRP!!!! The first was a lowball so I declined, but the 2nd I dont know if I should trust. katiax46@yahoo.com I occasionally sell on eBay. So dysfunctional. It was even obvious in the comments that they were sold as the girl who bought them thanked me for them. I sold $2,000 last month (April), all preowned items, and expect more in May. Its quite frustrating, especially when youre doing everything you can to provide great customer service. Im willing to admit I sold a makeup product that was not authentic. Posh is way too stressful. I have no idea how anyone can keep up with that. I cant believe people are this way! And I get it. My account was locked again, and I was told it wouldnt be reinstated. Well, when Poshmark realized that I wasnt a patsy that could be ripped of, they suspended my account. Bernice, I learned from my Poshmark mentor that you arent suppose to mention other sites like Mercari, etc. The ridiculous amount of fakes sold on Poshmark is why honest people who sell authentic items get hosed and rated badly by people with buyers remorse or who scream fake when they have no idea how to check authenticity. Im a Poshmark Suggested User; a top seller with 1100+ salesand Im closing my closet at the end of the month. Its a selling clothes to people thing. So sorry that happened to you! Then again, sometimes you may be 100% accurate in terms of where you have your item priced. 90% of them post one little photo of a piece of clothing, just the top usually, NO OTHER PHOTOS, no measurements, no condition information. I was so excited for my first handbag of this brand! Good luck! Same goes for buying.dont buy something for a price you couldnt recover on a resell. 5.) There has to be some kind of truth to their experiences, that can not be ignored. Then that shit stays on your wall forever unless you repost! I heard nothing. I take pictures of all the alterations on items if any, and any wear and tear, such as the fraying on the bottom of jeans. Jessica, youre not the only person that has happened to. No bundle may exceed 5 lb., she didnt want to pay the additional shipping. You arent obligated to share on posh same as you arent obligated to promote your personal site! Good morning! I always wanted to open up and online store but I have no idea how to do that I am way behind in technology. My account is old as the hills and has done so much worse since the new updates the last two years, in all honesty. It looked nothing like the photos in terms of fabric or even color. Long story short: someone bought it, said it had snags, took photos and sent to Posh! But it is also about respect! Its enough to make you really irritated, if youre that picky you could always try asking or leaving a comment warning first that youre going to be that particular and will act like a miserable brat when your never used $120 retail item you bought for an offer of $18 smelled either too nice or not nice enough! Remember it all probably started because youd rather have the cash than just donate it, so consider it a bonus. Fast shipping and buyer protection. I tried the dress on, thinking that they may not be as noticeable while the dress was actually worn, but they were very visible. I asked this woman to show me the tag and she was so insulted. I hate when a seller will say an item is beyond damaged notifies fake issues in pics (believe me they do it) and keep my items as she gets her money back and my item for free and I also get reimburst and low and behold find them on Facebook wearing it!! Good point about lowballers easily being overly picky and a pain the entire process. ?Can they keep my money. Maybe it cost them $1 to make! Good Bye Poshmark Forever. This way I am assured that I am covered if on the off chance someone else wishes to pull the same stunt! But undisclosed damage is unacceptable. Watch YouTube videos on How to Sell on PoshMark. Also i feel we should be able to rate buyers as well. Not sure if this has been mentioned, but Ive had some freaky good success on Tradesy with my purses/wallets. high fees and noone is serious. Youre better off selling on eBay or Tradesy, where there is a bit more protection. I guess its something new in their system, dont really know. Very onesided. Makes it hard for sellers that are actually selling authentic things. For this stage in my journey, though, Im rethinking those low ball offers for two big reasons. I sold lots of things that came as distressed inventory from a huge metalworking tooling company, industrial supply, tools, clothing. My measurements were clearly posted but all she cared about was getting it an I clearly stated to her do you want me to measure anything ? I haven't blocked this person so far, I'm just ignoring it. as far as the Posh parties I do not engage in them. Well I replied saying that I had no objection to her getting the refund on that shirt only, since I did not list the actual measurements, which I should have. I too am done with Posh.I was an active member about a year ago (for almost 2 years) no problems, no complaints, perfect sales/buyer. Everyone who has done this says it is the one thing that keeps you protected from lying buyers. My best advice is to list your items on PoshMark and leave the Crushing, sharing listings and Pavlov dogs to someone else and get on with enjoying your life. Id been wondering about selling a lot of my stuff online (Ive got a LOT of beautiful clothes that lifestyle wise, I have no need for anymore), but after reading everyones comments here, I see none of us are really having any luck. No one deserves that and its completely inexcusable, and I hope you reported them and they get removed. Sold by emacarino. Description: I don't mind the offer button. Blocking a buyer is a waste of 30-60 seconds of our time. My quick thoughts re: selling online. How about the time wasters who want to communicate offsite without any intention of buying anything? None. Thanks! Im not a big active seller on Poshmark by any means but had success with items I posted. They didnt even answer his question! Definitely deleting my accounting and washing my hands of this. People offer half the price for a listing. Engage in the following strategy: Ask yourself, is an emotional attachment clouding your judgement a bit in terms of what youre willing to sell something on Poshmark for? There are other options besides Poshmark, like Tradesy and even eBay that arent quite as time consuming. This is because they realized there was NO $$$ in providing customer service. When I first started selling on Poshmark (over a year ago) I usually got reasonable offers and even made a little profit on my items. I have had it authenticated on a coach forum and also directed her there to ask her own questions and concerns so they could show her what makes it authentic and also pointed her to information/articles. If the buyer doesnt like your item for some reason, they can return it to Tradesy and you keep your money. Nothing came, or was updated on Posh. Sorry you guys have had such bad experiences. Well today, for the first time, I received an email from Posh stating that a case had been opened against me. I like the app as a seller, but the buyer experience leaves a lot to be desired. Hey there friends I dont exactly want to say that Im glad I came across this blog/platforn, but it has without a doubt helped me to verify my personal issues with these so called trolls, and shed some more light on the recent 2021 downfall of many of Poshmarks users morale. I realize Poshmark customer service is very rude and do nothing to help! And the time involved isnt worth practically giving stuff away! I quit Posh but then caved and signed up again. There is a lot of work involved as far as driving people to your site via social media, blogging and adwords, but its well worth it because its YOUR site and youre not having to deal with the BS on Poshmark. Lisa, Im hearing more and more stories like this, and I too, had my share of sales that were canceled by Poshmark because once I purchased, the seller never responded. But the thing I couldnt understand they didnt look at the fact I been a great seller for 4 years, They shut me down completely. My friend & I actually buy posh labels to mail things to one another because its cheaper than it would be if we actually paid the post out of pocket! However, the buyer contacted me and said that the glasses I sold her were scratched. But I understand.d Im not thrilled with the cut that Poshmark wants, or with all the click the following button. As if anyone living in the United States could make money off a vintage, used, faux leather jacket, and would bother to try to sell one that was counterfeit. I, fortunately, only bought one on the Last One Reduced Price Listing by a Boutique Posher. Ive had to take half my closet down Bc of rude people ! The beautiful shirt showed up in my doorstep with a note of apology of sorts from the seller. I dont have time for social selling. Thank for your comment Maggie. So, I guess for me, it really depends on how I view the other buyer. A ridiculously lowball offer. The CONSTANT sharing, sharing, sharingthe neverending following, trying to trick the Posh algorithms. Did you do a direct mail campaign to notify them? Drop the emotional attachment. Parties? Ive read her comments and potential buyers have asked for photos of the actual jacket and some other ?s. I have a Louie Vuitton handbag that I was going to put on Poshmark, but I wont do it now. If you are a new seller and wary and have questions, feel free to email me. It is a challenge since my clothing consists of very nice designer items (at very low prices) and not secondhand items, and I think a lot of people are used to buying bargain basement thrift items (which I do not sell). THEY WERENT FAKE! Once I received notification of the accusation and reply to Poshmark through email and phone, despite my great reputation on the site, I got no response and had the item returned to me. They get 30 days to review. What??? So I am officially done, it is no longer worth the time, risk, and effort. I am in the process of closing my closet. All the best note I would seriously try ebay just to get a better feel for online selling and I know my daughter likes Vinted. I feel like there is nothing to stop a buyer from damaging an item and claiming the item is not as described. Youre right though, clearly I was in the wrong for having patience enough to wait for your response to my initial question. If it is someone who lives in your area and wants to meet to transact (Ive done this and saved the individual the shipping fee), then meet in a public place where others are around and tell them it is cash only!!!! Its terrible that they called you a whore. I would love to find a place to sell that does not require the 20% commission and will not require tons of time. I would love to open my own site and have actually had one before but the marketing was where I couldnt figure out how to spread the word about it. I even scoured the internet and found a phone number. Thanks for all the threads and all the comments. I sent an offer, told her to go for it if she liked it. Firstly, she was trying to take advantage of someone who was in a very emotional situation, and who knows how many times this ploy has worked in the past for her but I cant be bullied and I wont tolerate a manipulating opportunist having a temper tantrum because I didnt give in to her berating. On top of Poshmarks commission, I also had a bad experience as a buyer, which left a bad taste in my mouth. In addition, of course, to checking out your shop. Ive learned quite a bit from reading all the issues and problems that buyers and sellers have had to endure. I have a question. I thought it was just me. The time is waaaay too much unless you are a high school student. if theres anyone who can speak to this, i need help! She is claiming I sent a top with iron burn marks! 3-4 occasions where something was not as described or damaged when I got it and they accept the return or gave me a posh Credit in one instance but in other cases they have totally back me up. If so, they will open up a case. Ive quit Poshmark, too. Poshmark paid me for the purse even though I had it and said they would take appropriate action with regard to the buyer. He emailed posh asking them what criteria do they look for that constitutes a fake? Im no longer involved in e-commerce, but I just wanted to wish you success with the book. Buyers remorse is no reason to lie about an item. A lot of poshers also adopt the mindset of I know the right buyer will eventually come along. This is so cutewishful thinking, but cute. I would make most of my sales during the bewitching hour 5:00 a.m. If I shared my items at 4:30 a.m., it was too early in the morning. This countrys healthcare is the biggest scam. Shes theatening with things like, Ill tell the truth about you What truth? Keep me posted if you start something outside of Poshmark so I can help you promote it! Wow thats horrible! There are different ways to adjust pricing. This is where the problem comes in I have been waiting on a direct deposit since Dec. 3rd, I also have an order that hasnt been fulfilled! For things I really care about and are easy enough to list, then I will use eBay because the 10% commission they charge is reasonable compared to every other platform and its been around the longest so I feel comfortable using it. One of my tricks to protect myself is I use a tyvek wrist band with my store name written on it using a permanent marker and string it around the tag loop of your garment to protect the authenticity in case a return is file. It was bizarre bc she kept writing to me..?! I just quit last night. =). I wonder is it worth it? It is simply not worth a seller's time and energy. Your interactions with Poshers should be friendly and positive. A nice little money maker. All it took was one 2 star review for a vintage belt to knock me down. This way, the responsibility to ship it to their warehouse is on them. Two people who gave me one-star ratings for no reason. . I made a nickel off the whole deal & then she gives me a bad review, saying there was a kink in the chain (which we all knows happens) & when she tried to fix it, she broke it. I am trying to decide if I should block her from buying any future items from me. I am a frequent buyer on Poshmark, so understandably it was my first choice. Looking into this. talk about a time suck! Im still active & have made a few really good friends, but some things just kill me! Not only does it have snags that it didnt possess before I shipped, there was white hair on it like she let s pet on it to purposely snag with their claws!! Support??? Or I would simply walk away. I am fairly new to Poshmark, just a week over a month. Im so tired of dealing with trolls, low-ballers and snotty buyers. Theyre skinny jeans to me lol. I am not sure if it is worth the stress. Therefore, Ill have to reconsider Poshmark to sell my vintage wears on because I really dont need that aggravation. Fortunately I decided to google for reviews first. And so, when you open it up and see it is a pitiable offer, your hopes are not only dashed but inevitably a feeling of anger takes their place. Im sorry that happened to you! And dont get me started on customer service. The car analogy is perfect. My sales were good and I was getting 5 stars. When people offer $5.00 for an authentic Michael Kors bag, then I certainly understand why sellers get upset. Going crazy, any ideas? When the buyer received her item she filed for a return. What I always liked about Etsy is that because it is perceived as e-commerce site vs. a site where you trying to get a price hook up, Etsy customers would not typically ask for any price considerations they just purchase outright. I appreciate your post. Is the jacket in the pic not the one she would send if someone bought it? I am feeling the same way. I am getting tired already spending hours checking on PM for any sales, sharing and answering silly questions form buyers. Everything stems from the top the CEO, Manish Chandra. A few days later, I get an email from the buyer saying whats this? The idea that I would even think of lowballing makes me sick but this trend is warping the way I look at sales and purchases for everything on Poshmark. i sold a pair of authentic christian louboutin shoes w the box and dustbags.. now the buyer is claiming they are fake.. how do i deal with this? The bag is 100% authentic. A bad offer is no reason to block. I think Im ready to quit poshmark too. Quite a deal, but not shocking, given some of the buys Ive picked up on various platforms. dhampyre Respectfully, may I ask why you cancelled the order today after accepting my offer 3 days ago? Wowthat was my very first sale. So as of right now I am out around $100. I posted a beautiful peridot necklace for way cheaper than it was worth. I assumed they meant dont speak to her, which I avoided. Thats basic customer service that I feel any seller should be prepared to provide. And of course the seller is trying to make there money back off an item they may have paid 200 dollars new and selling used for 80 or 90 dollars, for long time thrift store/second hand/goodwill retail store / yard sell and so on buyers, we know that 80 to 90 dollars is not a true deal on a used item. Sure theres a ton of complaining and trying to figure out what the business is doing, but theres no real pushback from the community. Cant afford new stuff like MK bags and such, but would love to get them for below $100. Im not complaining-a sale is a sale, but I would rather donate things to my local church, which I will, than deal with the antics of greedy people. He was sadly a victim of the great Ebay Purge they did in 2013 despite top reviews and power seller status. -made a white with black logo thank you card. This person has raised there offer another $10 again. Great minds! And there is no customer support at PM! In the meantime, I did a screenshot everything I could in my sales and purchases. This is all bogus I had an excellent reputation on Poshmark almost a 5 rating never had replicas? She charged me 250 .I get the wig and its horrible,there are threads hanging out of it,its just not what the picture that I ordered looked like. Im hoping someone from posh reads this. Well PM has not ruled on the case yet but I am disheartened by this and trying not to let it get me down. I have shipped clothes before and most fits in smaller envelopes sometimes for around $3. Oh, and there are definitely more closets to shop. The lady gets her money back an I get back a dress drenched in perfume An a snag in the brand new dress !!! Since then another open case has been filed against one of my listings where it was clearly stated NO STAMP to determine if what I was selling was gold or gold-plated. Im just done.. I dont know if you are familiar with hosting a party on Posh but I messaged them about it and they sent me some form and said your closet has to be compliant, etc., etc. I reported a big replica closet every day for 6 months as well as sending in emails with attached screenshots of angry, ripped off customers leaving comments re: fakes they were sold. If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. Companies like Gilt Groupe, that affected us, and things like Zulily going from $4 billion to $1 billion, said Chandra when asked about the investor perception of e-commerce companies. I got the dress back and not only did it have snags but there were some tiny white hairs on it. Archived post. For resellers, low ball offers are offers that are so below your asking price that they may be deemed offensive and often times will lead to a rejection of an offer or may discontinue negotiations. 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